(31 Mar 2020 12:32 AM)
argument Over Child Abuse in Oregon's Ukrainian Community
(SALEM, Ore.) Stories we have published about a Ukrainian immigrant couple convicted of abusing their children in Salem, Are bringing more story comments than we are would always, And our stories receive comments regularly.
40 years old Alexander Kozlov and 39 year old Lyudmila Kozlov, Were sentenced to seven years behind bars for the abuse they caused upon their six children. the pair became sort of a courtroom spectacle, Waiving their to be able to a free public defender because "lord" Was their attorney, And ultimately receiving a sentence much longer than anyone expected.
The heart of the matter is that many people who are of this particular couple rally behind what they see as a God given right to beat their offspring illegally.
Many of these individuals say the couple did not a single thing wrong, Others admit that they went over the line but contend that keeping they and their parents together is paramount. To court arrest in Salem. This seems like an easy decision to most, But keep in mind that, I have never argued with many over such a seemingly obvious point. the, It is the only story in my 20 years of news reporting which involves child abuse advocates en masse.
The important thing, Is that should be genuine are changing, little by little, And it looks like this community is learning that what the Kozlovs did was not right, and that they could have better represented themselves in court, And thus received a lesser word. Courts are responsive to the idea of remorse. If a judge believes that a defendant can see they are wrong, will help you the outcome for the person on trial. If the opposition is disrespectful and unrepentant, then the sentence will be longer, every time.
The big picture tragedy is that people should move here legally, And they receive absolutely nothing instruction apparently, In yankee law. People should be educated about law and culture and what is expected of them in this case it would appear that they were not, And it has cost many people a new.
The worst of the have revolved around the children themselves, And based on the comments it appears clear that the church community that this family was part of, Is soundly and certainly condemning of the children for seeking refuge from the the years of abuse.
it could be, with any luck, There are people in the church who realise is really going on, i don't know. In fact I have been told that this church is the reason the family is here in the beginning, And it is my realizing that the minister helped basically convict them in court by bringing the same strange logic into play, up to claiming that the evidence in the case, Actual photos of the several injuries on the children, were initially "Photoshopped,
I have to state again that were very surprised by the hundreds of comments that strictly support the parents, Holding the children with regard to their own abuse. I am indebted to the people who recognize how wrong child abuse is, And for the comments they make. Great job on exposure, I can't thank you enough cause there are thousands of kids that are being abused every day helpless helpless, And dont know best places turn. This might offend the Old country folks but we ought not to be scared to stick our nose in to this subject, And let Homeland computer security look in to this, as well as leaving peaceful Americans alone,
Sara gave them, "a sad story. nevertheless, it's good lesson for all Russian/Ukrainian community. Be honest the parents are guilty. you know the Bible not teach that way to discipline the kids. I feel sorry for the kids and ashamed if you misinterpret the Bible,
Angelina composed, "I was also raised in a class of 10 kids. Dad got set on that kind of punishment and mom was soft, version, And tried to withstand him. Now after having two kids of my own. I do believe spanking, But i think if you're still spanking after 5 years of age or before, I think you should already know by then that you are doing a problem,
Oregon Reader left this short review: "A seven year sentence seems somewhat excessive however, However without remorse, I guess the judge found no other replacement for show, noticeably, How disappointed he was in the actions. This is a real sad case,
Unknown takes the far wall of the issue with: "These kids are teenagers whom it goes without saying have no respect for their parents. If hot ukrainian women the girl's parents didn't let her get a haircut than she need to have listened. I myself am a Christian and yeah in the Bible is says you may need hit your kid w/ a rod, And to whom aren't Christians, Then you don't understand that hitting your kid w/ a rod or spanking them is called discipline. Those kids might be messed up because now they just ruined their parents lives, Their brothers and sister's lives and their personal lives. Their parents are in jail and the kids don't feel guilty the least bit. i personally think that the parents should be found Not Guilty bc all they did was discipline their kids. I DON'T feel sorry for those kids what SO ever (Expect for the little baby),
This is more of the earlier comments, for the single copy conviction, And they are beginning to fade away. Other stories we have run include a info from a Ukrainian/American who was also severely abused as a child.
should be genuine cited above were corrected for spelling and grammar and punctuation only. Marine with twenty years of expertise on the west coast as a television news producer, Photojournalist, Reporter and task editor. Army and the marine corps. Tim holds numerous awards for filing, photo, content and editing, the actual Oregon AP Award for Spot News Photographer of the Year (2004), the ultimate place Electronic Media Award in Spot News, las vegas, (1998), Oregon AP alliance Award (1991); And any other awards including the 2005 Red Cross Good Neighborhood Award for reporting.
made up November 25, 2010 9:55 'm (pacific time)
Stop utilising Gods name in vain. me a Ukrainian. And yes I was too abused by my parents, Beating your kids manual are angry is not a disipline. good Bible you are to never punish you child in anger. I now have my own children and I am proud to say that I will not ever abuse my children. You have to crucial that you recognize your child is a gift from God and you are to take extra care until it is time to meet with your maker. When you receive an expensive gift from your spouse will you ever throw it around and beat it. geton it, No you handle it as if it is your most prized possetion. Why should a child be any different. Child beeting (what are known as by many spanking) Or abuse really tolarated. My childred have never been spanked which are always on their best behaviour. Always respectful to my spouse and i, through disobeying. We always sit down and discuss with them their day what has happend and guide them in your path of righteousness. As a survior of abusive childhood I refuse to believe that using spanking or beeting is a form of disipline. you should have a loving child if you just raise them with correct attitude and encouragement. Also stop using Gods name as a defend. Positive attutude and response always will russian women be over negative beeting and verbal abuse. God did not direct us to abuse our or as many say disipline in a loving invironment. Most of not often covered follow the old testament, Why take one verse that gives you edge over childre and use hate as if come from the Bible. The old testament directs us if you disobey one part of the law you have got disobeyed the whole law. My question to you hypocrates is how many of you pick and choose what gives you advantage and do not observe the parts that do not. No where in the new testament will you ever find to phisically punish your young ones. How ever new testament does tell us that my people are dying because of lack of knowledge. What happed to this Ukrainian family is unfortunate because they have died long time ago when the stopped obeing Gods commandments. Maybe when they are serving their sentance they're going to have planty of time to repent and step on the road of righteousness and end the madness of child abuse. What the Judge should have done is sentansed them to 7 years of presenting why child abuse is wrong and have them attend seminars talking about what they did was wrong.
Valentina august 2, 2010 4:24 pm (pacific time)
publisher, Please post my opinion. Why i didn't you post it last time?
Why does usa weep for God's help when tragedies like 911 strike, But will not live by his word? Discipline the children to set them on the way.